Comments on: Questions for Top PvPers! http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/ Warcraft Legion - A Daily Blog Inside World of Warcraft Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:42:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rabid_Larry http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-3149 Rabid_Larry Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:19:33 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-3149 I am a discipline priest in full hateful. I've been pvp'ing for years now. I found I can beat each and every class when it comes to 1 on 1 and can survive for a long time when I'm outnumbered. Still, if there's one class that's ever given me the slightest of problems, it's restoration druids. It's not so much a big deal when 1 on 1, I normally just run away or try to mana-burn them. But the real annoyance comes when I'm in the arena, even after trying with multiple classes, I always manage to lose a healing battle against druids. Unlike druids, I can't get away from ensnares whenever I want to, I don't wear leather, I can't go 30% faster when I feel like it, and I can't stealth or heal poisons or curses. They are better pillar humpers, and always have more mana than me. Plus cyclone, which half the time I don't feel is worth a trinket use, leading to my partner's death. My question is: What can I do? which class do I have to work with to beat resto druids in the arena? I've tried mana-burning, outhealing, bursting with my partner and other complicatd strategies, but none have yet to work. Please help, thanks in advance. I am a discipline priest in full hateful. I’ve been pvp’ing for years now. I found I can beat each and every class when it comes to 1 on 1 and can survive for a long time when I’m outnumbered. Still, if there’s one class that’s ever given me the slightest of problems, it’s restoration druids. It’s not so much a big deal when 1 on 1, I normally just run away or try to mana-burn them. But the real annoyance comes when I’m in the arena, even after trying with multiple classes, I always manage to lose a healing battle against druids. Unlike druids, I can’t get away from ensnares whenever I want to, I don’t wear leather, I can’t go 30% faster when I feel like it, and I can’t stealth or heal poisons or curses. They are better pillar humpers, and always have more mana than me. Plus cyclone, which half the time I don’t feel is worth a trinket use, leading to my partner’s death.

My question is:

What can I do? which class do I have to work with to beat resto druids in the arena?

I’ve tried mana-burning, outhealing, bursting with my partner and other complicatd strategies, but none have yet to work. Please help, thanks in advance.

]]> By: Roughneck http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2678 Roughneck Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:09:36 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2678 HI, Just to update my comment. Have now duel specked Arms/ Prot. Man i cant belive the difference. Dropped my first solo shammy yesterday and mage. Spell reflect and sheild bash are awsome. That combined with the warriors ability to charge on cooldown now. Have jewled for resillance now and at 725. But would still like to know whats best Hit or Crit??? HI, Just to update my comment. Have now duel specked Arms/ Prot. Man i cant belive the difference. Dropped my first solo shammy yesterday and mage. Spell reflect and sheild bash are awsome. That combined with the warriors ability to charge on cooldown now. Have jewled for resillance now and at 725. But would still like to know whats best Hit or Crit???

]]> By: Emasculater http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2585 Emasculater Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:40:54 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2585 Hi there! My question is, how do you manage to stay updated with all current bugs that you can "exploit" for your own good and keep up you succes as a pro gamer? - This is meant for Swifty if you get the chance to talk to him. Hi there!

My question is, how do you manage to stay updated with all current bugs that you can “exploit” for your own good and keep up you succes as a pro gamer?

- This is meant for Swifty if you get the chance to talk to him.

]]> By: Slimebucket http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2559 Slimebucket Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:01:11 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2559 I used to pvp, but quit for many reasons 1) the play style of run around like an idoit, back and forth, THROUGH the player RIGHT as the spell is going to cast is annoying as ****. The reason people do that is so casters get the "TARGET MUST BE INFRONT OF YOU" They need to make it like NPC's when they cast spells, when the spell cast timers up they automatically point towards the target and cast it. Or make it so you cannot run back and forth THROUGH characters like nothing was there (in PVP that is... make it so u can still pass thoguh people so you can't get blocked, but make it so you move slower, or have to jump past or something!) 2) before WotLK all u would see in PVP is rogues. Now its DK's and rogues. Caster classes in PVP are at a huge disadvantage. Sure we can do lots of AOE effects, CC, fear, dot's and all that, but its usually the melee classes that finish off enemies and get all the kill points and honor points.... casters are good for utility stuff, healing and support stuff, and because of that, do not gain HONOR as quickly as melee classes. Being a caster in a PUG PvP is horrible, because everyone targets you first, you dont get many killing blows, and because it is a pug no one really protects you. 3) Too many glitches / cheap tricks that abuse the game mechanics Druids can get out of fear by shape shifting really really fast like 5 times (I cant count the amount of times in WSG when a druid has the flag, is about to cap it, I fear em, they change form really really quickly, and while the fear thing is still above there heads they run right to the flag and cap it. Line of Sight gets abuse soo bad... "hah im standing behind this small peice of wood and cloth.. there for you cannot cast spells towards! Or people that stand at a pole, and just run around it in cicles constantly so if anyone tries casting something at them they get TARGET NOT IN LINE OF SIGHT. 4) Blizz changes the classes to much. As soon as I get used to all the stategies to playing against each cleass, blizz releases a patch that changes all the classes, and now I have to re learn every single class, so that I can better understand them when I fight them in PVP 5) They expect me to pay EXTRA to get into the PVP tournement servers? wtf im already paying $15 a month... if I want to pay EXTRA to get to the extra pvp tournement server I would just buy WAR and play that. 6) They need to make gear that can be used for both PVP and Raids (kinda like that staff of domaniance back in lvl 60 days.. where it is one time, you right click on it, and it becomes a second item) because I have no room for PVP gear set. I have my PvE set, back up PvE set, potions, food, scrolls, about 8 different trinkets, a few quest items, and my bank is totally full. 7) they should make it you can get PvE gear with honor as well. I can get PvP gear with PvE emblems and tokens... why cant I get PvE gear with PvP honor and emblems? Many PvE guilds get upset when someone is PVPing and not gearing up for PVE. So these players can't play PVP they want to, because they have to do instant runs, rep farm ect ect. It is like they dev's making 2 totally different games, and putting them into 1. It is silly, if you want PVE gear you cannot get anything from PVP so your forced to PVE. If you could get some PVE gear from PVP then a lot of people wouldn't be so "WTF u doing PVPing?!?! we got guild raids and u need to get PVE geared!!!" 8) It gets boring. As a warlock I spend 90% of my PVP time sapped, disoriented, or affected by something that takes away my control from my character. Or, fighting against healers who do nothing but heal themselves, it takes forever.. So basically How I feel about PvP is... if you want to do it, roll a rogue. Thats mainly what rogues built for. Run around like an idoit all the time, like ur a chicken with its head cut off, running though the person as much as you can, like u where some type of ghost, sap and stun lock as much as possible. This is a random comment, but I also think they should make 1 CLASS ONLY battles. like 10 on 10, 10 warlocks vs 10 warlocks, or 10 dk's vs 10 dks, or 2v2 and 3v3 where its all the same class. Then it would really be a test of skill, and people couldn't complain they lost because the other persons class is cheap. I used to pvp, but quit for many reasons

1) the play style of run around like an idoit, back and forth, THROUGH the player RIGHT as the spell is going to cast is annoying as ****. The reason people do that is so casters get the “TARGET MUST BE INFRONT OF YOU”

They need to make it like NPC’s when they cast spells, when the spell cast timers up they automatically point towards the target and cast it. Or make it so you cannot run back and forth THROUGH characters like nothing was there (in PVP that is… make it so u can still pass thoguh people so you can’t get blocked, but make it so you move slower, or have to jump past or something!)

2) before WotLK all u would see in PVP is rogues. Now its DK’s and rogues.
Caster classes in PVP are at a huge disadvantage. Sure we can do lots of AOE effects, CC, fear, dot’s and all that, but its usually the melee classes that finish off enemies and get all the kill points and honor points….

casters are good for utility stuff, healing and support stuff, and because of that, do not gain HONOR as quickly as melee classes. Being a caster in a PUG PvP is horrible, because everyone targets you first, you dont get many killing blows, and because it is a pug no one really protects you.

3) Too many glitches / cheap tricks that abuse the game mechanics

Druids can get out of fear by shape shifting really really fast like 5 times (I cant count the amount of times in WSG when a druid has the flag, is about to cap it, I fear em, they change form really really quickly, and while the fear thing is still above there heads they run right to the flag and cap it.

Line of Sight gets abuse soo bad… “hah im standing behind this small peice of wood and cloth.. there for you cannot cast spells towards! Or people that stand at a pole, and just run around it in cicles constantly so if anyone tries casting something at them they get TARGET NOT IN LINE OF SIGHT.

4) Blizz changes the classes to much. As soon as I get used to all the stategies to playing against each cleass, blizz releases a patch that changes all the classes, and now I have to re learn every single class, so that I can better understand them when I fight them in PVP

5) They expect me to pay EXTRA to get into the PVP tournement servers? wtf im already paying $15 a month… if I want to pay EXTRA to get to the extra pvp tournement server I would just buy WAR and play that.

6) They need to make gear that can be used for both PVP and Raids (kinda like that staff of domaniance back in lvl 60 days.. where it is one time, you right click on it, and it becomes a second item) because I have no room for PVP gear set. I have my PvE set, back up PvE set, potions, food, scrolls, about 8 different trinkets, a few quest items, and my bank is totally full.

7) they should make it you can get PvE gear with honor as well. I can get PvP gear with PvE emblems and tokens… why cant I get PvE gear with PvP honor and emblems? Many PvE guilds get upset when someone is PVPing and not gearing up for PVE. So these players can’t play PVP they want to, because they have to do instant runs, rep farm ect ect. It is like they dev’s making 2 totally different games, and putting them into 1. It is silly, if you want PVE gear you cannot get anything from PVP so your forced to PVE. If you could get some PVE gear from PVP then a lot of people wouldn’t be so “WTF u doing PVPing?!?! we got guild raids and u need to get PVE geared!!!”

8) It gets boring. As a warlock I spend 90% of my PVP time sapped, disoriented, or affected by something that takes away my control from my character. Or, fighting against healers who do nothing but heal themselves, it takes forever..

So basically How I feel about PvP is… if you want to do it, roll a rogue. Thats mainly what rogues built for. Run around like an idoit all the time, like ur a chicken with its head cut off, running though the person as much as you can, like u where some type of ghost, sap and stun lock as much as possible.

This is a random comment, but I also think they should make 1 CLASS ONLY battles.

like 10 on 10, 10 warlocks vs 10 warlocks, or 10 dk’s vs 10 dks, or 2v2 and 3v3 where its all the same class. Then it would really be a test of skill, and people couldn’t complain they lost because the other persons class is cheap.

]]> By: Rakuda http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2542 Rakuda Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:14:20 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2542 People hop around because it makes them harder to acquire them as a target, at first, and once targeted, it makes them harder to hit, if you are a melee class. For this reason, when engaged in pvp combat, one should already have in place as many ways to stop or limit movement as possible. If your opponent is feared, you can load them up with DoTs as an aff. lock; if your opponent is Cheap Shotted, you have a window with which to work with them as you would a standard mob. So when picking a spec to pvp with, DO NOT pick any talents having to do with Threat, and DO pick as many talents as you can that give you instant-cast damage or heals, interrupts, stuns, and movement limits. Make as many macros as you need to get all of your trinkets, racial abilities, and spells/talents with CDs into regular rotation. Limit the number of keys you need to push. Then you can hop around with the best of those annoying nelf warriors, stunlock them, and Mutilate them down into the dust... lol People hop around because it makes them harder to acquire them as a target, at first, and once targeted, it makes them harder to hit, if you are a melee class. For this reason, when engaged in pvp combat, one should already have in place as many ways to stop or limit movement as possible. If your opponent is feared, you can load them up with DoTs as an aff. lock; if your opponent is Cheap Shotted, you have a window with which to work with them as you would a standard mob. So when picking a spec to pvp with, DO NOT pick any talents having to do with Threat, and DO pick as many talents as you can that give you instant-cast damage or heals, interrupts, stuns, and movement limits. Make as many macros as you need to get all of your trinkets, racial abilities, and spells/talents with CDs into regular rotation. Limit the number of keys you need to push. Then you can hop around with the best of those annoying nelf warriors, stunlock them, and Mutilate them down into the dust… lol

]]> By: Kevin http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2528 Kevin Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:58:44 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2528 all i want to know are specs for rogue and paladin. How a rogue can BS and dominate in two shots. And also how does a paladin bubble so fast that it makes them nigh impossible to defeat? all i want to know are specs for rogue and paladin. How a rogue can BS and dominate in two shots. And also how does a paladin bubble so fast that it makes them nigh impossible to defeat?

]]> By: Lightbright http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2526 Lightbright Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:02:32 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2526 1) Resto druids are no longer the kings/queens they used to be in arena, but what class combinations work best in 2s and 3s? 2) Can you share your strategy for keybinding (regardless of class, I'd just like some general tips) and how it's helped you in pvp? 1) Resto druids are no longer the kings/queens they used to be in arena, but what class combinations work best in 2s and 3s?

2) Can you share your strategy for keybinding (regardless of class, I’d just like some general tips) and how it’s helped you in pvp?

]]> By: Andrew http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2522 Andrew Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:38:56 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2522 hey ya, ive been playing a spriest for a few years now and finally got the courage to attempt pvp with her again. the reason i say "courage" is because of spending ages at 70 getting owned in arena and getting virtually nowhere. with the new tallent changes from 3.10 I think i might stand a chance in arena again but figuring out the right class combination is proving a little difficult, as well as an effective play style to work with. any pointers in this direction would be greatly appreciated. thankyou hey ya, ive been playing a spriest for a few years now and finally got the courage to attempt pvp with her again. the reason i say “courage” is because of spending ages at 70 getting owned in arena and getting virtually nowhere. with the new tallent changes from 3.10 I think i might stand a chance in arena again but figuring out the right class combination is proving a little difficult, as well as an effective play style to work with. any pointers in this direction would be greatly appreciated.

thankyou

]]> By: wannaberogue http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2520 wannaberogue Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:01:21 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2520 Hey, i have a lvl 80 rogue and a 70 rogue.. so i have alot of experience regarding rogues. However i never really got the hang of being one of the better rogues out there.. I duel and duel, but without much luck.. sometimes things go perfectly, and i win, even against top rated players.. But what i have trouble with is my reaction.. i want to know what you have keybinded ? as in everything you keybind :) I myself only use some keybindings, and resorting to using the mouse way to often, basicly giving me even larger reaction time.. I would also like to know what partners for 2v2 can a rogue play with, and be succesful with ? I have tried most of em.. including disc priest, resto druid, another rogue and a mage.. I have not have any luck so far in this season, as i have only reached 1690 for all time highest.. thats with a disc priest.. Any advices what i need to do, or even whom i should partner up with ? What about the gear ? i see alot of pvpers, including the well knows ones, such as akrios, unmercey etc who use pve gear.. is this caus they play with a mage ? being as you either get one down fast, or you lose either way .. ?? Do you have any strats as to beat the classes in 1v1 duels ? Ive tried head to head, even tried restarting the duels, but with no luck.. this is mostly against healing classes.. such as shamans, priests, paladins and druids :p basicly all of them :( As far as the other dps'ers ive managed to have about a 50/50 chance of winning.. though winning against dk and mages, especially good ones, is extremely hard.. Is there any videos out there, or any strats i should check out ? any help would be appreciated ! :) Hey, i have a lvl 80 rogue and a 70 rogue.. so i have alot of experience regarding rogues. However i never really got the hang of being one of the better rogues out there.. I duel and duel, but without much luck.. sometimes things go perfectly, and i win, even against top rated players.. But what i have trouble with is my reaction.. i want to know what you have keybinded ? as in everything you keybind :) I myself only use some keybindings, and resorting to using the mouse way to often, basicly giving me even larger reaction time..
I would also like to know what partners for 2v2 can a rogue play with, and be succesful with ? I have tried most of em.. including disc priest, resto druid, another rogue and a mage.. I have not have any luck so far in this season, as i have only reached 1690 for all time highest.. thats with a disc priest..
Any advices what i need to do, or even whom i should partner up with ?
What about the gear ? i see alot of pvpers, including the well knows ones, such as akrios, unmercey etc who use pve gear.. is this caus they play with a mage ? being as you either get one down fast, or you lose either way .. ??
Do you have any strats as to beat the classes in 1v1 duels ? Ive tried head to head, even tried restarting the duels, but with no luck.. this is mostly against healing classes.. such as shamans, priests, paladins and druids :p
basicly all of them :(
As far as the other dps’ers ive managed to have about a 50/50 chance of winning.. though winning against dk and mages, especially good ones, is extremely hard..
Is there any videos out there, or any strats i should check out ? any help would be appreciated ! :)

]]> By: Tyler http://www.warcraftlegion.com/pvp/questions-for-top-pvpers/comment-page-1/#comment-2518 Tyler Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:25:12 +0000 http://www.warcraftlegion.com/?p=242#comment-2518 What do you like about PvP because im thinking about starting it?? What do you like about PvP because im thinking about starting it??

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